you have to have skill. he has both. tell them what you did. >> after that particular business mastering program, as tony said, 80% of it is psychology, and 20% of it is mechanics, or the strategies. unless you get the psychology down, the mechanics don't matter. i can tell you, from that day in november of 2008, where i made that decision, that i was not going to fail, and i kissed my lady and said, i'm going back to work, and we went out there and i learned how to export. and when there was no market for steel in the united states, i was able to export to several different countries. and we took off from there. we continued to grow. and it was just, again, about a mind-set. it's about having a level of pride. for me, it was coming from where i come from, the name didn't mean a whole heck of a lot. i was determined to change that. it's something i call generational influence. i'm doing this for my son, not for me. >> is that good advice, tony?